The Ecclesiastics of Buddhist Economics

Something struck me deeply this week. It may not sound like much, but there’s a lot of things involved here, let’s see if I can ecludiate(word?) them.

I have been listening to the zencast podcast since a little before I worked at SaskTel. It helped keep a sense of perspective, and helped me to keep calm while dealing with irate customers on the phone. The kinds of things that it discussed I found new, and insightful. Christianity deals with some of the things, but only in passing, and only in a ‘read this passage’ way, where the passage says ‘don’t be afraid, for god is with you’, ’suffer, because god loves you’ or something like that–nice in principle, perhaps, but doesn’t actually *help*. The point being, the kinds of things that Christianity usually tries in order to help people’s lives have tended to be

  1. Appeal to Authority
  2. Appeal to the Afterlife

A better mind, a clearer perception of the world, these things are not what Christianity is about. To (especially early) christianity, the world is not understandable, and it’s best not to ask too many questions. Everything that you need to know is in the bible, which is read to you because you shouldn’t know how to read. Sure, there are exceptions, but they tend to be later-christianity hacks to make the faith seem less absurd in light of more secular opposition (before science could stand on its own feet, it really didn’t make much more sense than christianity. By the 19th century, there was little doubt, but before that time there was still work to be done, and both science and christianity proper benefitted from this era of competition).

Buddhism, on the other hand, deals entirely with the material world, kind of. All that is required is the belief in the existance of suffering(which is really a psychological/objective fact, at root). Buddhism then looks into the nature and causes(and effects) of this suffering, (and in doing so, the nature, causes and effects of pleasure). It’s a little pseudoscientific. However, it’s only so because it’s utterly personal, subjective but based on objective truths. Even if the ancients who hashed this stuff out couldn’t know it at the time. The whole idea is trying to make the human experience bearable, livable, to improve life itself, right now, starting with things we can do today. And it’s not like you can’t question their tactics, either. I’m pretty sure you can — sure a lot of buddhism is based around the teachings of the buddha, but I don’t think it’s actually necessary–it’s the quest that’s important, it’s the goal, it’s the intent. Once you accept that(really, the 4 noble truths) you are compelled to accept the rest by logic, science and the bayesian method. And if there is an error in the interpretation of buddhism, well, get on the wiki/publish-or-perish deathmarch/corporate gravy-train and improve our understanding of that, right?

I meditated. I learned some things about myself that I might have known earlier, but realistically did not take seriously(unless there was intense pain involved–for example my heart needs kindness and care. I know for a fact that it does because of the pain it has given me, but I could have known that by just paying attention to the way my heart feels when I treat it poorly, instead of ignoring it). It sounds simple, but these kinds of things are downplayed if given any time at all in modern economic and pragmatic worldviews, even those associated with judeo-christianity(and I suspect, Islam). One of the books I read(I think it was ‘patterns of educational philosophy, brameld(?), Uhawaii, 50s) right before I started university suggested that the peak of american thought up until him was Zen buddhism, Deweyan Pragmatism and I think existentialism. He may have been on to something; amid the repetition, the redundancy, the secretness(non-american buddhists have a heirarchy of secrecy to their discredit, and like a modern university or scientology-like cult, there is a whole staircase of levels to go through in order to become enlightened, definitely more than necessary), I think in the western understanding of the world, there is something missing. When taking Econ296(ecological economics) I read a paper(I think it was “buddhist economics” by E F Schumacher) on a suggested buddhist economics. He wasn’t very explicit–but later on in the course, the entire economic system was simplified into 3 things–the achievement of pleasure, the ridding the self of suffering and I think the third thing was related to identity/society (can’t remember that, either). Really, the course was, in it’s entirety, about simplifying ecological economics into ecology/systems theory/biology, non-ecological modern economics and buddhism. Again, the point here is that economics and buddhism are two pieces of a single puzzle, two ways of looking at a single problem, and although they deal with somewhat different things I think that they should both be learned, or neither.

One way this could manifest, I think, is that it would do *incredible* good for vipassana(sp?) to be taught in late elementary school through early highschool… far better than Channel 1, probably just as good as ritalin. Easy to understand, calming, and something to guide you as you live. Who wouldn’t want kids to be calmer, more perceptive and happier? Granted, I only have a part in that question as a former child, as a former peer, but I encourage those of you who do and will have children to take a serious look at this question, and the question of what you want society to do with children in general(is education merely passive? to get jobs? to become a citizen/human being? etc)

Where the shock came in, is when Gil(name?), on Zencast, suggested a per-class donation. It wasn’t required, just suggested, for simple things, building maintenance, bandwidth, whathaveyou. I tallied up my listens, and tried to figure out what it was that Zencast had suggested as far as payment and, well, I won’t tell you what the number is but it is big enough to be worth taking a second look at the whole situation.

Hypothesizing away my own poverty for one moment, from preachers on TV asking for money to spread the faith to SKTFM who suggested that “corporations and churches both want to steal your money and rob you of your soul”, giving money to churches is in my mind something of a verbotten activity. It’s just not done, because they can and will rob you blind.

And yet, in a sustainable society, we would have both economics and buddhism(and if you’re into that sort of thing, a (monotheistic) religion (like christianity)). We would have an understanding of ourselves, the world, and an idea how to make ourselves and the world better. So it is not really unreasonable for the Zencast monestary to ask for a pittance so that they can maintain their temple, while the property values around them hit the roof(nearby houses, outside of the slum which they sound like they are in, easily top 1$M). Now let’s assume that I was willing to give them something, through Ripple, even.

First of all, it’d mean more work. But what does work entail? Usually, causing suffering. Both in myself, possibly the customers, and the ‘external’ of the externalities inherent in both capitalist and really, when it comes down to it, communist/similar production. It would mean not paying attention to myself, the suffering both in myself and elsewhere in the world, and exiting the buddhist arena, and going into the economic arena, to toil for awhile. Much like going to work to afford school, I suppose. Would it be enough to just try my best to work rightly? To consume rightly? To bear responsibility of society, and to act always towards the optimal, most efficient path? The golden mean?

This is something that there has to be a balance of, but in my mind in part this undermines part of what Buddhism(and in doing so, I guess economics, and in part, the (meaningfulness?(word?)) I’ve found that both economics/science and buddhism give theis approach to life) is doing—I can’t even try to be happy more, that it makes more sense to suffer, and to be purpesfully unable to deal with suffering, so that others may have a chance at not-suffering?

I guess when written down like that it sounds whiny/simple. Sometimes you can be happy, sometimes you can’t, and the stoic/buddhist path is well defined in either case.

A related problem to all this is the biopolitical definition of a citizen. Who deserves to be a citizen? Is it right for me to squish the bugs in my house (for failure to pay rent)? What about to eat meat? To kill bacteria/viruses/fungi who threaten me? What about other human beings, even monsterous ones who we might otherwise kill/jail/exile? What the hell do we *do* with other people who clearly violate the law/cause harm on others in a serious way/cause mass suffering? Who choose not to be part of the (deme/socially acceptable group/society/future)? I think it is a related problem. I think it’s a problem that is in essence a political sub-problem of sustainability in general.

So, to sum up

Is Zen Buddhism/Vipassana(sp?) really something that is not just reasonable but which gets at something fundamental in life, something that actually makes human life better in a serious and effective way? If so what kind of church/educational structure should Zen Buddhism (the kind which we ought to support) be/be taught from? Is it ok to give existing structures your material support/help them change into different kinds of structures that might be better, in case the first question is answered as something different than what they currently have?

Is such an institution part of a sustainable society(with our without religions(christianity, islam, judaiism, atheism, etc to go with it)?

Another example; it is clear to me that I should not drink coffee, or at least, not treat it like I usually have in the past. Yet, if I do so I might be able to get short-term productivity gains that would enable me to give material support to the institution in question, allowing it to sustain itself. But then, what is that but exploitation, even if willful? Is that kind of thing part of a sustainable System of the World? An ethical one?

3 Responses to “The Ecclesiastics of Buddhist Economics”

  1. Ben Harack Says:

    I agree with most of what you say minus a few (possibly key) things.

    Mainly I don’t think that money = work = pain. While this can certainly be true in some cases, I think generalizing it is impossible. I still stick to the belief that if we are contributing something of value to society, that value will come back to us in the form of ability to sustain ourselves.

    If I had to choose a religion to abide by, a really simple form of Zen Buddhism is pretty much unassailable in my opinion. Our experiences have meaning, and this self-knowledge is the path the enlightenment and happiness.

  2. Nato Welch Says:

    We’d have to wait for all the Christian fundies to die. Or kill them. (How’s that for counterproductive?)

    You know, the ones that think all other religions (however loosely a self-deprecating Buddhism fits that description) are puppets of Satan.

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